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| So, I figure I can have 3 pets, eh?
So:
1. Wind Serpent for pve dps: points in which resistances? and stam, no armor. Learn lightning, bite, dive, and what? Cower? Is cower necessary? Or just growl off?
2. and 3. Scorp for arena? Boar for BG's? Owl for grinding?
Is there any way the wolf Howl skill is worth it if it doesn't have a focus dump?
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| Why Wind Serpent for PvE? I was always under the impression that Ravager is your best choice...or am I wrong?
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| nah, howl isn't worth it unless you're like highlander or some hunter that's going to be afk for 1/2 the time and could go follow on someone with howl on autocast or if you're like trying to set a dps record for a rogue by stacking a group around 1 rogue, having another rogue keep up hemo, rotate heroisms etc.
basically for hunters, there's no way to ever answer any 'is this better' unless its a landslide other than putting the stats into the spreadsheet. if you attack slow and don't crit too often, a ravager will be better than a wind serpent as you won't have a focus overflow and it has a 1.10 damage modifier instead of 1.07. also having things like misery and stormstrike play into the wind serpent's role as top raiding pet but you often won't have those in small raids.
for farming, wind serpents are the worst pet ever because you can't leave lb on autocast or they run out to range to cast it doing less damage than mixing lb and melee and bite. this makes it so you can't do things like have your pet pick up agro on the next mob while you loot and such.
for bm pvp, scorpians aren't really that good. without the imp stings talent, viper isn't that devestating, and your plan as a bm hunter is to kill someone, not bore them out of the arena like a marks hunter does, use a cat.
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| Ravager or Wind Serpent for PvE. I preferred Ravager while I was playing my Hunter because it has less conditionals (i.e. is there an Enh Shaman, do I have enough crit to focus stack my pet, etc). Ravager is also better than a Wind Serpent for solo'ing/5 mans.
A scorpid is generally better for Arenas, as it protects Viper Sting. A less specialized pet is better for BGs/world because you're not going to be playing drain games against people in BGs, so I use a Boar. Some people also prefer Boars for certain makeups in Arenas; i.e. heavy burst setups with a Beast hunter, for the short duration (1s) root that charge gives.
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| lol cower.
another benefit for cat is in BGs if youre NE; you can both stealth at nodes.
for grinding/solo I really just make sure it has dash/dive. owl is nice, cat/boar/ravager are fine too. screech used to do mega aggro, dunno if it still does.
for solo/5 man i put max armor, dash/dive, a focus sink (claw or lit, gore, screech), and stam.
PVP i put dash/dive + focus sink if its not a scorp, nature resis, either shadow or ice resis. rest in stam.
raids u want resists based on the instance. also avoidance, its nice in 5 mans too.
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| okay, I swapped to ravager for soloing, I think I might still use boar a lot too, I just really love that charge. Also, since the highest level boar is 60, I might as well use to 70 so I don't have to grind it up afterwards. Whereas I can go get a level 70 ravager on the netherwing island. Charge also seems to avoid the tedious dance that pets/mobs sometimes use and run miles away.
Thanks for the help!
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| I know for me a ws does 52 spreadsheet dps more than a ravager without counting stormstrike, misery, or any other caster party buffs. In practice I've felt it was even bigger of a difference than that because the spread sheet doesn't model the crazy focus overload of heroism or rapid fire, both are with BW up, resulting in a pretty substantial difference.
just for reference, the math on pets stealing stormstrike charges is that if there's 1 bm hunter, 1 enh shaman, 1 elemental shaman, don't use a ws. if there's 2 hunters, they should both use ws because the gain from 2 hunters using a ws that eats the ss charges is more damage than an elemental shaman gets out of it. the line is right around 1.5 hunters.
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| Ulfar is only .5 of a hunter.
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