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Brew Disciple
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| that is a great site, Jeff.
Also resto druids make me sick. Looking at that resto tree is just revolting.
Honestly, someone needs to put resto and holy/disc down next to each other on the desk and honestly ask themselves: what the fuck.
Well, at least priests have flash heal and COH! Oh, right. Never mind. At this point, a level 80 holy spec priest does not bring anything to the table.
Here are the things they might bring:
AOE healing: so far, WOTLK raids don't need it, and you have paladin HL glyph, chain heal, Wild Growth and HOTs. This might change, as they may add fights that explicitly say BRING COH like Bloodboil, but honestly that's just a gimmick
Single Target healing: beaten by paladins, maybe druids too, and disc priests
guardian spirit: it's very cool and everything, but if it really provides a great bonus, you're doing things wrong
spirit of redemption: ha ha ha
lightwell: ha ha ha
Here are things they don't provide, but Disc does!
stam buff: easier to get imp fort in disc
spirit: easier to get in disc, plus IDS
grace: disc
shields on MT: disc
pain suppression: disc
power infusion: disc
mana regen: maybe this is more equal
annnnd I'm in the wrong forum.
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Brew Disciple
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| Yeah, i've been playing with that for a few days. Feral druids in particular have a lot of optional buffs. Like even lotp isn't really required since if you're dpsing you don't really need mangle unless there's no warrior with trauma. Basically, there aren't enough points to get a good tanking or dpsing spec that includes all the buffs you can provide, so like with 2 druids you can have 1 main bear, 1 main cat, and split up the debuffs between the 2 druids and a warrior. Then warriors have to coordinate specs witih paladins cause like need someone with commanding presense to do cshout, but if there's no imp might paladin need someone with com pres for bshout too. lots of stuff like that.
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Brew Disciple
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| Warriors suck 
(your gear is like nearly broken now lee)
(p.s. carry some damn food)
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| | There are alot of druid buffs that are kinda questionable like that, Moonkin aura doesn't stack with any other crit buff, imp faerie fire won't stack with misery, earth and moon won't stack with CotE. The thing I see about these buffs is if someone else has to actually cast it and yours is passive, keep yours. Locks can use either a damage curse or reck instead of casting elements, since earth and moon is going to be applied anyway (and with the change also gives me spell damage). I'll probably never take imp faerie fire again since sp's will still take misery. The nonstacking of the spell crit buffs was pretty necessary, as if they all stacked I could probably push 60% crit, which is pretty silly. I tremble to imagine fire mages pushing that much crit with the new talents. Still, it woulda been fun. One problem I am running into is Insect Swarm, with the amount of times we do fights that actually need it I can't justify spending a point (or even 3 more for the imp) as it's still a dps loss to cast it (unless you glyph it and negate the whole point of the spell). I'll see how things go tonight without it. |
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| without tanks being nearly unhittable, small hit debuffs like that just aren't a big deal, and when they are, scorpid sting can be used. Like on archimonde, most of the time, IS is nearly useless, but during a fear its like those little mitigations are quadrupled in value. So on my hunter anytime the tank dips below 50% I scorpid, or anytime there's a fear, or a big wave of incoming damage or such. Like Najentus, can scorpid during the shield, especially since you can't really damage him anyway, cause it lets healers divert a bit onto raid healing after the shield.
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Brew Disciple
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| yeah, glyphed, talented, hasted, shortened ht is like .9 some seconds for 4k unbuffed, and scales pretty nicely with buffs.
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| 13/0/48 is a little ridiculous for PvP
Pretty much just what I said about running around in tree form doing nothing but spamming heals.
Granted you're not exactly invincible because people can put out a retarded amount of burst damage. But you basically have a lifebloom similar in strength to the old version but that lasts 9 seconds + rejuv + swiftmend + regrowth + (if you really want it) 1.5s HT + Living Seed (on a ~60% crit regrowth). The amount of raw healing you can put out is absurd.
Have I mentioned that I hate my internet here and really want to be able to actually play arenas?
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| | Probable build for wotlk raiding: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=0xGfhiI0VdhV0RtZbxchb Ditching dreamstate in favor of intensity, most of the wotlk caster gear has insane amounts of spirit so the switch seems pretty warranted. I'll also be putting full points in brambles for more tree damage, increased scaling and they now benefit from totems and other raid buffs outside my group. 27-28k damage for one global on brutallus atm, without full points. Starfall seems pretty situational and I might drop it for nature's splendor depending on how much aoe we have in the raid, even then hurricane is pretty good damage on it's own now, even without the mana battery exploit. (right now hurricane crits proc the moonkin mana restore, I can hurricane with 2k mana and end up with 4k) All of this hinges on how much raiding I'm actually able to do, I'll be gone for a few weeks in february and going to Iraq sometime in April. Ooh, note to self: fix laptop or get a new one. Cursed Alienware. Who makes a good gaming laptop now? |
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